(AI Gen) How Functional Programming Made Me A Better C# Developer
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Speaker 2:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:By James Garrett
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:About pretty recently. Right. And, you know, when I first saw the title, I was like, functional programming in my beloved c sharp. Like, how is that even possible? Yeah.
Speaker 1:But this article really opened my eyes
Speaker 2:I can imagine.
Speaker 1:To how these functional programming concepts can actually make you a better c sharp developer.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's not about abandoning object oriented programming completely. It's really more about, like, adding some new tools.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Getting the best on c sharp toolbox.
Speaker 1:Of both worlds. Yeah. And he kicks things off by talking about how these lines between the paradigms are getting blurrier and blurrier.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And we see this in a lot of languages. They're borrowing ideas from each other, and it's leading to a lot of really interesting possibilities for developers.
Speaker 1:For sure.
Speaker 2:There's actually research that shows that using functional programming principles can really cut down on bugs and code.
Speaker 1:Well, that's always a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. A study from UC Davis showed that
Speaker 1:Less debugging. More time for other things.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:So one of the core functional programming concepts he dives into is immutability.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I know what you're thinking. Immutability in c Sharp. Right. I mean, it relies on mutable objects.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You would think that that doesn't really work. But
Speaker 1:Right. But he demonstrates how even without specific keywords for immutability, you can still achieve it through clever design choices.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, think of immutability like treating your data as read only once it's created. It may seem a little limiting at first, but it really has huge benefits, especially when it comes to complex logic or multithreaded applications.
Speaker 1:Oh, that reminds me. You mentioned you've been wrestling with some tricky concurrency bugs in your current project. Immutability could be a game changer there.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1:You know? By getting rid of the possibility of data being changed unexpectedly, you can prevent a whole class of concurrency errors.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And James, he illustrates this with a great example from his time at Empower. They were experimenting with different ways to encourage users to sign up for a new product, and it involved a feature flag to control whether a cache advance option was displayed before or after something called Thrive.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I remember that example. Yeah. The original code used mutable variables to handle that logic, and it made it so hard to follow and and debug.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Janice explains how they rewrote the code using C Sharp's ternary conditional operator to assign the variable only once, effectively making it immutable. That really helped improve the code's readability, and it also reduced the chance of errors.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's like decluttering your code Right. Making it crystal clear what's going on.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:So even though c doesn't explicitly enforce immutability with keywords, we can still apply the principle and reap the benefits.
Speaker 2:It's more of a mindset shift than anything else.
Speaker 1:Yeah. For sure.
Speaker 2:And speaking of shifting mindsets, James goes on to discuss minimizing state mutations. Essentially, this means keeping the logic that manages an object state within the object itself. It's about creating clear boundaries of responsibility in your code.
Speaker 1:And this is where that cache advanced tile example really shines. Instead of having external code poking around and changing the tile state, they introduce static factory methods within the cache advanced tile class itself.
Speaker 2:Exactly. So instead of saying, hey, cache advanced tile, you're now in an error state, they have methods like generate error entity that create a new tile that's already in the error state. This keeps all the state related logic encapsulated within the object.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's subtle, but it's a powerful shift. You're not modifying existing objects. You're creating new ones with the desired state, and that reduces the potential for unexechedated side effects.
Speaker 2:Right. And that brings us to one of the most exciting parts of James' article, the power of link.
Speaker 1:Oh, link. I love link. It's where functional programming really shines in c sharp.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It allows you to manipulate data in a way that's both elegant and efficient. Imagine expressing complex data manipulations in a single readable line of code. That's the magic of link.
Speaker 1:Alright. I have to confess, when I first encountered link, it felt a little like magic. But once you grasp the underlying principles, it becomes this incredibly powerful tool. James provides several examples to show how link can streamline your code. He starts with a classic task, finding all users with low account balances.
Speaker 2:Right. And he shows how this can be done with a traditional for each loop, but then demonstrates how much cleaner and concise it is using link's where method. The difference in readability is striking.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And he takes it a step further by showing how you can create your own reusable link style operations using c Sharp's extension methods. He creates an extension method called filter low account balances, which encapsulates that logic for finding those users. This way, you can reuse this logic anywhere in your code with a simple expressive call.
Speaker 2:It's like building your own mini language within c sharp tailored to your specific needs. And he doesn't stop there. He goes on to demonstrate how Linq can simplify nested logic when updating account information based on certain conditions.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's all about leveraging Link's ability to filter and transform data to create code that is both efficient and easy to understand. What I really appreciate about James' approach is that he doesn't just focus on writing shorter code, but on writing better code.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Code that is more expressive, more maintainable, and ultimately less prone to those pesky bugs we all dread. But, you know, we've only just scratched the surface of what James has to share in this article. There's so much more to explore.
Speaker 1:There is. And luckily, we have plenty of time to dive deeper, so stay tuned because we'll be back shortly to continue our exploration of functional programming and its impact on c sharp development in part 2 of this deep dive.
Speaker 2:Welcome back. I'm really eager to keep unpacking how these functional programming concepts can really level up your c sharp code.
Speaker 1:Me too. It's like finding this whole new side to a language you thought you already knew, frontwards and backwards.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And it's interesting how even experienced c sharp developers can sometimes miss these opportunities to write cleaner and more robust code.
Speaker 1:It is easy to get stuck in your ways.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:But speaking of link, James, James makes a point that really stuck with me. Even link, with all its elegance, can be used in ways that might make a functional programming purist kinda scratch their head.
Speaker 2:Yes. The debate about side effects.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:He mentioned the example where link is used to update a bunch of account records with new routing numbers. It's super efficient code, but it does modify the original account objects, which some might consider a side effect.
Speaker 1:Yeah. In a purely functional world, you would try to avoid mutating data like that. Mhmm. But like Janice points out, sometimes being practical is more important than being a purist. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:There are times when the benefits of Link's expressiveness and efficiency outweigh the potential downsides of straying a bit from pure functional principles.
Speaker 2:It's a good reminder that we don't have to be dogmatic about these things. The goal is to write the best possible code for the situation, and sometimes that means finding a balance between different paradigms.
Speaker 1:I like that. Finding a balance. It's all about picking the right tool for the job and really understanding the trade offs.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Blindly following any paradigm without thinking about the context can lead to code that is way too complex or inefficient.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So true. Now as we dig deeper into this mix of functional and object oriented approaches in c Sharp, I'm curious, what are some of the biggest benefits you've personally experienced from adopting a more functional style?
Speaker 2:One of the most significant benefits has been a reduction in bugs. Immutability alone has saved me countless hours of debugging. When you know your data can't change unexpectedly, it dramatically reduces the potential for errors, especially in complex systems.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It makes sense. You just eliminate a whole category of potential issues right from the start.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And beyond just having fewer bugs, I've also noticed that my code is just much easier to understand. When you minimize state mutations and keep your functions pure, it's so much easier to wrap your head around what your code is doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I get that.
Speaker 2:It's like the difference between trying to untangle a giant knotted mess of string and having these neatly organized spools.
Speaker 1:That is a great analogy. It's like you're taking away the mental burden of having to constantly track down potential side effects.
Speaker 2:Right. It frees up your mental energy to actually focus on the problem you're trying to solve rather than getting bogged down in debugging or trying to make sense of code that's all over the place.
Speaker 1:Totally. And speaking of solving problems, I found that the functional approach can also lead to more elegant and problems, I found that the functional approach can also lead to more elegant and reusable solutions. Link, especially, is a great example of this. Once you get the hang of it, you can express complex logic in a way that is concise and really powerful. I agree.
Speaker 1:It's like having and really powerful. I agree.
Speaker 2:It's like having a set of high level building blocks
Speaker 1:that you can combine and recombine to
Speaker 2:create these really sophisticated data manipulation so easily. It's almost like composing music. You have these individual notes and chords
Speaker 1:that when arranged correctly create this beautiful symphony.
Speaker 2:I love that analogy. It highlights another important aspect of functional programming, the emphasis on composition. By breaking down complex tasks into smaller pure functions, you create these reusable units that can be easily combined and orchestrated to achieve whatever you're aiming for.
Speaker 1:It's like building a complex machine out of smaller, well defined parts. Mhmm. Each part has a clear purpose, and they all fit together perfectly to create the larger system.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And this modularity makes your code easier to understand and maintain, but it also makes it much easier to test.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Testability is a huge benefit of functional programming. When you're dealing with pure functions, you know exactly what's going in and what to expect coming out. It makes writing those unit tests super straightforward.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And remember, thorough testing is key for building software that's robust and reliable. So the easier you can make that testing process, the better off you'll be down the line.
Speaker 1:Couldn't agree more. But, you know, we've been talking a lot about the technical side of functional programming. Yep. I'm curious. Have you found that this shift in thinking has also had an impact on other parts of your development process?
Speaker 1:For
Speaker 2:sure. Once you start thinking functionally, it can really influence your whole approach to developing software. Everything from how you design APIs to how you organize your teams and work with colleagues, those principles of immutability, purity, and composition can have a big impact.
Speaker 1:That's interesting. It's not just about the code itself. It's a whole way of thinking about solving problems and designing systems.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And I think that's what makes this whole journey so exciting. It's not just about picking up a new set of skills. It's about expanding how you think and finding new ways to tackle the challenges of software development.
Speaker 1:Will said, I think James' article does a great job of showing both the practical benefits and the wider impact of using functional programming in c sharp.
Speaker 2:I agree. It's a fantastic place to start for anyone who wants to dive into this world. But just like with any new paradigm, the real learning happens when you get your hands dirty. So I encourage everyone listening to try it out, play around with these concepts in your own code, and see firsthand the power and elegance that functional programming can bring to c sharp.
Speaker 1:For sure. And don't be scared to make mistakes along the way. That's all part of learning and growing as a developer.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Embrace the journey and, most importantly, have fun with it. But before we go too far, we're just about out of time for this part of our deep dive.
Speaker 1:Alright. Don't worry, everyone. We'll be back soon for the last part of this episode. We'll be wrapping up our exploration of functional programming in C Sharp, and I think it's gonna be a really thought provoking conclusion.
Speaker 2:It will. We'll be getting into some of the bigger implications of what we've talked about and exploring how this change in thinking can continue to shape the future of c sharp development.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to the final part of our deep dive into James Garrett's article, how functional programming made me a better c sharp developer.
Speaker 2:It's been a journey.
Speaker 1:It has. We've talked a lot about how these functional programming ideas can make your C Sharp code better. Yeah. But it really feels like we've only just started.
Speaker 2:We have. As we wrap up, I think it's important to remember the most important takeaway. Functional programming isn't about just memorizing new words or applying techniques without thinking. It's really a whole new way of thinking.
Speaker 1:Right. It's about looking at problem solving in a fresh way and changing how we think about our code, like embracing immutability. Yeah. Figuring out how to manage state and really understanding what tools like link can do.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And that change in thinking can go beyond the code itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Think about how this new perspective could impact your whole development process. Everything from designing APIs to testing and even working with other developers. Functional programming can really make a difference.
Speaker 1:Wow. I never thought about it that way.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:So it's like this undercurrent that begins with the code, but can change how everything works in development.
Speaker 2:Right. Imagine how immutability could lead to more reliable APIs. Using pure functions makes your code easier to test and understand, and incorporating functional composition could create a code base that's more modular and collaborative.
Speaker 1:So it's not just about the code being better, but about the whole development environment being better. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:Functional programming isn't just about techniques. It's a whole way of thinking. It can help you build better software in every way. It encourages you to be more careful about side effects, to value clean code, and to aim for code that's both elegant and efficient.
Speaker 1:James' article has been so inspiring. It's given us a great starting point for exploring functional programming and how it can improve our c sharp skills. This journey definitely doesn't end here though.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't. This is just the beginning. There's a whole world of functional programming concepts and techniques waiting to be discovered. And as we've seen, using even a few of these ideas can make your c sharp code much better.
Speaker 1:So to everyone listening, keep experimenting, keep learning, and keep pushing the boundaries of what you can do with your code. Don't be afraid to try new things and embrace new ways of doing things. You might be surprised by what you can achieve.
Speaker 2:And remember, the most important thing is to have fun. Programming is all about creativity, and the more tools and perspectives you have, the more fun and rewarding it becomes.
Speaker 1:Well said. So that's a wrap for our deep dive into the world of functional programming and c Sharp. Until next time. Happy coding, everyone.